Universal, subsidized child Day care - scandinavian style

Anyone know anything about Montessori. I'm thinking of sending my son there when he's older. Public schools are shit now. They just teach to tests and most got rid of art and music which I think is important.

I went to one when I was young. I think it helped me.
 
So not only would I be paying 12k a year for mine but I'd be paying for everyone elses too. I don't like that idea.



Its better for your country if all american children - whether they're yours or not - have universal access to quality day care.

But, maybe thats a liberal sentiment.
 
The other option is to make school all year round. I mean teachers around here get paid quite well. They don't need like 3 months off throughout the year.
 
Its better for your country if all american children - whether they're yours or not - have universal access to quality day care.

But, maybe thats a liberal sentiment.

I guess I'm just a cold hearted jerk but I am getting tired of paying for all my own stuff and everyone elses.
 
The other option is to make school all year round. I mean teachers around here get paid quite well. They don't need like 3 months off throughout the year.
Most of the time in mentioning teacher salaries they only metion the beginning salary. The Unions have negotiated back-heavy deals that make it worth it if you stick it out. The pay increases quite a bit, and their retirement packages are enviable.
 
LOFL at moron Cypress Castro.
Never happen, is anyone left of you.
We will only get a watered down subsidized health insurance bill.
No massive socialism that you support, your insane.:pke:
 
LOFL at moron Cypress Castro.
Never happen, is anyone left of you.
We will only get a watered down subsidized health insurance bill.
No massive socialism that you support, your insane.:pke:


You voted for a guy that spent a trillion dollars on iraq. On iraqi schools. On iraqi children. On iraqi roads and bridges.

I reject your implication, that universal day care for american children makes me a socialist. :pke:
 
Well, I guess I'm just a commie at heart because I really think that everyone's kid regardless of income should have the option of some kind of daycare 24/7 up to the age of around 8 or 9. I'm not proposing educationally intensive programs but simply sitters. If you want to spend $12K on some fancy program, by all means (which I believe should be a deduction to your taxes) Every town has the infrastructure and baby sitters would cost a lot less than teachers and if they are in big enough groups you can get cost of scale. I don't think it would be that taxing to be honest and the rewards would far outweigh cost. Let's BF, next year you get laid off and have to take a lower paying job, it would be nice to have the option of dropping your kid off somewhere safe without doling out $12K a year.

At the end of the day, I'm sure the cost in man hours and materials over the next 25 years of said plan would be a fraction of what we're spending in Iraq.
 
Well, I guess I'm just a commie at heart because I really think that everyone's kid regardless of income should have the option of some kind of daycare 24/7 up to the age of around 8 or 9. I'm not proposing educationally intensive programs but simply sitters. If you want to spend $12K on some fancy program, by all means (which I believe should be a deduction to your taxes) Every town has the infrastructure and baby sitters would cost a lot less than teachers and if they are in big enough groups you can get cost of scale. I don't think it would be that taxing to be honest and the rewards would far outweigh cost. Let's BF, next year you get laid off and have to take a lower paying job, it would be nice to have the option of dropping your kid off somewhere safe without doling out $12K a year.

At the end of the day, I'm sure the cost in man hours and materials over the next 25 years of said plan would be a fraction of what we're spending in Iraq.

Well said, I agree.
 
Well, I guess I'm just a commie at heart because I really think that everyone's kid regardless of income should have the option of some kind of daycare 24/7 up to the age of around 8 or 9. I'm not proposing educationally intensive programs but simply sitters. If you want to spend $12K on some fancy program, by all means (which I believe should be a deduction to your taxes) Every town has the infrastructure and baby sitters would cost a lot less than teachers and if they are in big enough groups you can get cost of scale. I don't think it would be that taxing to be honest and the rewards would far outweigh cost. Let's BF, next year you get laid off and have to take a lower paying job, it would be nice to have the option of dropping your kid off somewhere safe without doling out $12K a year.

At the end of the day, I'm sure the cost in man hours and materials over the next 25 years of said plan would be a fraction of what we're spending in Iraq.

It shouldn't even be debatable that all american children should have affordable access to day care.

They don't even debate it in scandanavia. Probably japan too (though I'm not sure). The only debate is to how to make it better and more efficient.
 
sure they deserve it, but I doubt even the furthest lefty dem would be dumb enough to propose it.
Not going to happen.
 
It shouldn't even be debatable that all american children should have affordable access to day care.

They don't even debate it in scandanavia. Probably japan too (though I'm not sure). The only debate is to how to make it better and more efficient.
Which is what I have been debating. Most often schools have programs before/after school. The problem is these programs, of course, are not continued when school is not in session.
 
sure they deserve it, but I doubt even the furthest lefty dem would be dumb enough to propose it.
Not going to happen.

it wouldn't be that expensive though. We're, well, I'm talking about babysitters or TAs who frequently make $7-10/hr depending on where you live on infrastructure you already have. There are people who would volunteer to help out. I'm not talking about giving them the moon - extended recess, a couple of rounds of kickball or baseball, educational documentaries, some lunch etc. You could even enlist interns in child development to work there for free - people love to volunteer to coach stuff for whatever reason. It would not be that expensive.
 
LOL, gov run pre pre k not expensive. LOFL

yes 3 TA's for 30 kids at $10hr. And we'd have 11 admin guys making 175,000 for every 30 ta's.
I've never heard a serious candidate propose it, just a nutcase like cypress castro.:clink:
 
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