Why millennials are leaving the church?

Superfreak said:
I think where they are similar is that both sides have fundamentalists who insist they are right. The majority of Atheists and Christians believe what they do and let others do the dame. It is those that insist they are correct and ridicule/mock/condemn those that do not believe as they do that are the problem. In that way, they are very similar.

Atheism IS a religious belief. It is based upon the same question... is there a higher power or not. Obviously they are on the opposite sides of the question to Christians.
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Why do you insist on repeating these idiotic notions? How is atheism the opposite of Christianity? Is it the opposite of Judaism? Islam? Hinduism? Paganism? It's not a religion, it is not the opposite of any one religion or of religion in general.
 
Professor Baxter said:
Why do you insist on repeating these idiotic notions? How is atheism the opposite of Christianity? Is it the opposite of Judaism? Islam? Hinduism? Paganism? It's not a religion, it is not the opposite of any one religion or of religion in general.
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1) Why do you insist upon creating straw men?
2) I did not say it is the opposite of Christianity. I said that when it comes to the question 'is there a higher power or not' that Atheists are on the opposite side of the question as Christians. I only mentioned Christians because that is the faith that others were discussing. Obviously with regards to that question, atheists are on the opposite side of it to other religions as well. So quit getting your panties in a bunch. Read what I actually write, quit building your straw men.

Atheism is similar to religions in that the most ardent believers in atheism are insistent that those of other religious beliefs are idiots/fools/etc... and they mock them for daring to believe something other than what the atheists believe. The same holds true for many of the most ardent of Christians, Jews, Muslims etc...
 
Superfreak said:
1) Why do you insist upon creating straw men?
2) I did not say it is the opposite of Christianity. I said that when it comes to the question 'is there a higher power or not' that Atheists are on the opposite side of the question as Christians. I only mentioned Christians because that is the faith that others were discussing. Obviously with regards to that question, atheists are on the opposite side of it to other religions as well. So quit getting your panties in a bunch. Read what I actually write, quit building your straw men.

Atheism is similar to religions in that the most ardent believers in atheism are insistent that those of other religious beliefs are idiots/fools/etc... and they mock them for daring to believe something other than what the atheists believe. The same holds true for many of the most ardent of Christians, Jews, Muslims etc...
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Again, claiming non-belief is belief is a circular argument and is a logical fallacy.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Again, to say nonbelief is belief is circular reasoning and is a logical fallacy.
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That is quite moronic. It is not a 'non-belief'. It is a belief that there is no god. A belief is an acceptance that a statement is true. By taking a definitive position, they are expressing a belief that said position is accurate. A synonym to belief is faith.
 
Superfreak said:
That is quite moronic. It is not a 'non-belief'. It is a belief that there is no god. A belief is an acceptance that a statement is true. By taking a definitive position, they are expressing a belief that said position is accurate. A synonym to belief is faith.
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Semantic horseshit. I don't believe that rainbows are unicorn farts (contrary to popular opinion). And that ain't faith.
 
Superfreak said:
1) Why do you insist upon creating straw men?
2) I did not say it is the opposite of Christianity. I said that when it comes to the question 'is there a higher power or not' that Atheists are on the opposite side of the question as Christians. I only mentioned Christians because that is the faith that others were discussing. Obviously with regards to that question, atheists are on the opposite side of it to other religions as well. So quit getting your panties in a bunch. Read what I actually write, quit building your straw men.

Atheism is similar to religions in that the most ardent believers in atheism are insistent that those of other religious beliefs are idiots/fools/etc... and they mock them for daring to believe something other than what the atheists believe. The same holds true for many of the most ardent of Christians, Jews, Muslims etc...
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It is not even the opposite of monotheism. Atheism is not a religion anymore than a-teapotists are a religion and it does not contain the traits of a religion.

You are an idiot and a fool. Mocking you for it is not the essence of a religion.
 
Professor Baxter said:
It is not even the opposite of monotheism. Atheism is not a religion anymore than a-teapotists are a religion and it does not contain the traits of a religion.

You are an idiot and a fool. Mocking you for it is not the essence of a religion.
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Again moron... read what was written, QUIT creating straw men.
 
Let me break it down for the atheists as to why they are unamerican.

The founding principle of this country as articulated by Thomas Jefferson is that we are endowed with certain inalienable rights from our Creator.

The word Creator means God. Not any particular religion per se, but God. That is undeniable.

Since atheists claim to not believe in God, they therefore cannot believe that basic tenet of our founding. The two are mutually exclusive.

Where else do atheists believe our rights come from? Nothingness? Man? The State? Regardless they obviously can't believe that our rights are inalienable and come from God as the Founders believed and enshrined in our founding documents.

GAME. SET. MATCH.
 
Was the unAmerican-ness of atheists ever in doubt?


Also, too, strange that the language from the Declaration of Indendence with it's Nature's God and such never made it into the Constitution.
 
Superfreak said:
That is quite moronic. It is not a 'non-belief'. It is a belief that there is no god. A belief is an acceptance that a statement is true. By taking a definitive position, they are expressing a belief that said position is accurate. A synonym to belief is faith.
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Again, you're using circular reasoning. How can nonbelief = belief?

Your argument just keeps going back to it's beginning because it's premised on nonbelief equaling belief. You are equating the two. Which meams your circular argument is also based on a false premis. A belief there is no god is nonbelief in god. The fact is nonbelief and belief are not equivelent. That faith can be a synonym for belief is a nonsequitor cause it's still the same circular reasoning based on a false premis. Nonfaith cannot equal faith. To equate faith with nonfaith (or no faith) brings you right back to the begining of your reasoning making it circular and therefore a logical fallacy.
 
Superfreak said:
Again moron... read what was written, QUIT creating straw men.
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I am responding to what you wrote. Atheism is not a religion because they mock people. Not even Christianity is a religion due to mockery. That is what you said they had in common.

Christianity is a religion due to a shared set of rituals and supernatural beliefs. Atheism has none of those traits and the absence of belief in a deity is no more a religion than the absence of belief in the teapot, leprechauns or ghosts is a religion.
 
Dungheap said:
Was the unAmerican-ness of atheists ever in doubt?


Also, too, strange that the language from the Declaration of Indendence with it's Nature's God and such never made it into the Constitution.
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It was never in doubt. I know atheists think they are too cool to believe in God. They claim to not believe in "made up bullshit" yet to a person they are almost all Warmers. Go figger.
 
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